fr. so sad 
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Today’s morning, air Canada express crj900 collided with a fire truck. Who’s fault was it?
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The Air Canada Express CRJ-900 (Flight 8646) collided with a Port Authority fire truck while landing at LaGuardia Airport (LGA) around 11:40 pm Sunday, March 22, 2026, resulting in fatalities The fire truck was on the runway, authorized by air traffic control to respond to a different incident, according to reports this NPR article.
Key Details Regarding Responsibility:
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Active Emergency Response: The fire truck was operating on the runway under the direction of Air Traffic Control to respond to a reported “odor” on a separate United Airlines flight, as reported by NPR and CTV NEWS .
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Ongoing Investigation: While the truck was authorized to be there, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) will determine if this was a runway incursion, a pilot error, or a controller error, notes this MMRBH Law article.
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Fatalities: The collision caused the deaths of the Air Canada pilot and co-pilot, “The CRJ-900 plane struck the vehicle at a speed of about 39km/h, said Flightradar24, which last recorded data at 11.37pm local time in New York (3.37am Irish time).” reports RTENEWS .
No official party has been definitively blamed for the accident, as investigations into the incident involving Air Canada Express flight 8646 and the Port Authority emergency vehicle are ongoing, as reported by The New York Times and RTENEWS
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why does Irish time matter???
also, how the poop did the plane reach that AOA after the collision
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RTE is Irish
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ah okay.
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“Irish Time” is attracting attention because this accident was reported by major Irish media outlets.This is because it was widely reported as breaking news by Irish News , Irish Mirror , Irish Times , RTÉ , etc.
Why is Irish Time a topic of discussion?
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International news speed : Irish media outlets released detailed reports and air traffic control audio immediately after the accident, leading to frequent use of phrases like “3:37 a.m. Irish time” on social media and news feeds.
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Role as a standard time : While the aviation industry typically uses UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) , Irish Time (GMT/UTC) coincides with it, making it easier for researchers and news outlets around the world to cite as a reference point for time.
Why did the aircraft end up with that angle of attack (AOA) after the accident?
The abnormally raised nose (high AOA) in post-collision photos is primarily due to the shape of the physical impact.
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“Ridge-over” phenomenon : An Air Canada CRJ-900 collided with the center of a fire truck that was crossing the road while on its landing roll (at a speed of approximately 39-48 km/h). The nose of the aircraft went under the fire truck during the collision, causing the aircraft to ride up onto the fire truck and its front section to be physically lifted.
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Structural damage : The impact severely damaged the nose structure beneath the cockpit, resulting in the loss of the nose gear or requiring support from a fire truck. The aircraft came to a stop in a “tail-first” position, with the tail touching the ground and the nose pointing towards the sky.
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Disruption of weight balance : The impact likely caused structural materials and outer panels in the front of the aircraft to be scraped away, resulting in a sudden change in the center of gravity, which also contributed to the abnormal attitude when the aircraft came to a stop.
Shall I tell you more about the identities of the two pilots who died in this accident , and the situation of the air traffic controllers at the time ?
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why are the Irish talking about it
the lucky charms are out of stock again? (joke)
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The main reason this accident is receiving so much attention in Irish media and on social media is that the time of the accident is This is because it was cited globally as 3:37 a.m. Irish time , and major Irish media outlets reported the news as a top international story.
Why is it a hot topic in Ireland?
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Timestamp Criteria : Immediately after the accident, when Flightradar24 , the world’s largest flight tracking service, released its data, it prominently displayed the time in Ireland (GMT/UTC) alongside New York local time (11:37 PM), one of its bases. This was then widely disseminated on social media and in news articles (e.g., The Irish Times , RTÉ ) as titles and lead paragraphs, leading to the term “Irish time” becoming associated with the accident.
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Active media coverage : Major Irish newspapers such as the Irish Mirror and The Journal have been reporting on the incident with the same frequency as national news since immediately after the accident, including the shocking audio recording of the air traffic controller saying “I messed up,” and detailed profiles of the two deceased Canadian pilots (Antoine Forest and others).
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High level of concern for aviation safety : Ireland is one of the world’s leading aviation industry hubs (home to leasing companies and airlines), and historically, the memory of major aviation accidents (e.g., the 1968 Earl Lingus crash) is deeply ingrained in the public consciousness. Therefore, accidents in other countries tend to attract a very high level of attention.
Regarding aircraft attitude (AOA)
The reason the aircraft came to a stop with a high angle of attack (AOA) after the collision, with its nose pointing towards the sky, was because it was rolling down the landing runway at a low speed of approximately 24 miles per hour (about 39 km/h) and ran onto the side of the fire truck .
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Physical “lift” : The CRJ-900’s slender nose slid under the fire truck during the collision, and the weight and recoil of the vehicle physically lifted the nose section of the aircraft upwards.
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Cockpit destruction : The impact caused severe damage and crushing of the front section of the aircraft, including the cockpit. As a result, the nose gear, which had lost its support, broke, and the entire aircraft sunk towards the rear tail (a tail-down position), coming to rest with its nose unnaturally raised.
Are there any further details you’d like to know about the latest air traffic control audio released by Irish media , or the timeline of the accident investigation?
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no.
this looks like it was strait from Google Gemini
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Stop….
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oke
:3c
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sorry I’m just bein a little annoying fireball rn :3
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I feel like its the FAA’s fault, like having one atc guy doing two positions, and its just like the dc crash too
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the FAA should really change their terms and policies for the atc, as well as atc positions. rather have overstaff than understaff. (rather be safe than sorry)
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Not only that, but ATC was dealing with a plane that had a strange odor in the cockpit. The poor controller was just so overloaded
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Press conference by the NTSB to start any moment now.
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Here are some notes:
Incident occurred around 11:37PM EDT.
72 pax / 4 crew
2 firefighters
NTSB began to arrive at 3:10AM EDT, but some are still en route
CVR and FDR have been recovered
Runway 4/22 is going to be closed for awhile “days”
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yes thats true, even a frontier pilot thought it was not the atc guy’s fault
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it isn’t the atc’s fault. you’re right. i think its the fire truck guy bc the atc guy yelled STOP more that 10 times but the fire truck kept going. if it hadn’t, this would’ve been a near miss, not a crash.
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